Originally Posted by Dats000
I am curious what some of the veterans would say to this. As a newcomer it comes across as you being available to her beck and call or whenever she needs you. Why is she still calling you for stuff that is not about the kids? If you’re doing a 180 or detaching yourself from her. Should you be available to help? What were the odds that you would have said no?

Rock has to determine what "works" for him. Do more of what works and less of what doesn't.

One thing I learned after joining here is supplicating behavior from a man kills the woman's attraction. She looses respect for him and he lands in the friend zone. She even looses more respect if she is sleeping with other men and he knows about it, or is to ignorant to even know, and does nothing about it.


In a healthy relationship both people should be meeting each others needs with enthusiasm. The poster here are not arriving in healthy relationships. Different rules apply until we get to piecing.

Most of us guys arrive here with lots of Coopers traits. We need to drop the unattractive ones and learn many of Brads good traits.