Cemar, Cemar, Cemar, (She writes shaking her head)
Seriously, do these circular arguments get you anywhere? I am not saying that you shouldn't want a woman in your life to desire you. Please show me where I have EVER written that.
1) The need to be "okay" with yourself and 2)the need to have a woman in your life to desire you are TWO different things. Both are legitimate and separate needs. The curious thing is that many people think you need the second to get the first but that isn't true. You need the first to get the second and that's what I am TRYING so unsuccessfully to get through to you.
I feel like I have sent many positive messages out to you of how to help yourself and instead you fall back on a weak circular argument that states things that I have NEVER written. You even put my quote in your response "doesn't DEPEND" and somehow extrapolated out of NOWHERE that I say you should be as happy without a lover as with one. I NEVER said that!!
1) What I do say is you should be able to BE happy without a lover; but OF COURSE you can/would be HAPPIER with a lover.
2) This would mean that if a man has no lover in his life, he should be just as happy as those that do.
I will be very explicit. Can you see the difference between statements 1 and 2?
Last edited by fearless; 03/29/0706:24 PM.
But what is happiness except the simple harmony between a man and the life he leads? ~Albert Camus
I will admit that some women can fake the body language and be very flirtations when they don't feel it. I am not an elder of my church, I am just trying to be a reglious man. As for the porn, yes it is a vice of mine and I try to avoid it, but alas I am not perfect on this. As for the knowledge of sexual acts, just because a person is religous does not mean we can not have fun. I have done a lot of religious reading on sexuality, and God clearly intends for couples to be able to do just about anything as long as it is between them and does not harm either. If a couple wants to be wild and crazy in the bedroom, God is all for it.
DAMN, right when I thought he was getting totally over-the-top and unreasonable, along comes CeMar with two great posts.
Choc,
I don't think I have ever posted to you but I don't think you want to be getting on my bad side while I have PLENTY of time to write.
Can you explain why you thought Cemar's response to me was reasonable? Seriously. I didn't think it answered my post AT ALL. He never seems to have a different answer to anything that anyone writes other than to feel sorry for himself because unless his wife changes he will never be happy.
But what is happiness except the simple harmony between a man and the life he leads? ~Albert Camus
Fearless wrote to Choc: -------------------------------------------------------- Can you explain why you thought Cemar's response to me was reasonable? --------------------------------------------------------
Because both believe that their wives have the answer to their respective problems.
-NOPkins-
I will ferret out an affair at any opportunity.
-An affair is the embodiment of entitlement, fueled by resentment and lack of respect. -An infidel will remain unreachable so long as their sense of entitlement exceeds their ability to reason.
Because both believe that their wives have the answer to their respective problems.
Maybe I am just jealous because I wish someone else had the answers to my problems. Instead I cannot help from seeing what I have to do.
I am also seeing/inferring why you and MrsNOPs were successful even though, as you both admit, it wasn't easy. You never did lose track of the fact that you liked yourself and felt good about yourself. You didn't need MrsNOP for that. You needed sex and needed her to show her love in a way that you could relate.
Close at all???
But what is happiness except the simple harmony between a man and the life he leads? ~Albert Camus
