CeMar,

Lets use the head example here. She could give me head because I ASK her to, or she could surprise me and do it because she WANTS to do me. The latter will make HUGE deposits in the love bank, whle the first will not. Sex is an incredible MIND game. It is not really about the orgasam, it is about WHY you do it. This is why I always come back to desire. You have to make the other person feel like you WANT to give them ??? rather then I do ??? to keep you happy. And it is easy to distinguish between the two. Body language will give you away.

Though you didn’t answer my earlier question, or any other question I ever asked you, this response sheds a little light. How do you know the difference in body language that your W expresses versus some one else that you seem to have in mind? Did your W ever give the body language you describe? Did she ever want and desire you as you say, at least before you got married? What type of language are your looking for and how do you know it is sincere?

For instance, girls at topless bars are experts at cozying up to patrons and making them feel like they are king of the world (before every one gets started, I’ve been to topless bars about 3 times, about 20 years ago, for bachelor parties or a night out with broker reps.) Anyway, these girls really know how to turn on the body language, how to make a man feel special, how to listen to them, how to look into their eyes, the whole shebang. And they can be very convincing. That is their stock and trade, to keep the men coming back. Yet in reality, they could care less about those guys. It is all for the money.

Is this the sort of thing you are wanting and where did you experience this before? Your openness to a "snowball," your use of porn, knowledge of sex toys, yet claims of being an elder in your church have me quite confused......


Cobra