VC, 2 things: First --the workshop you are referring to, (give me your email if you want, so I can send you the info and not have to post here, but for now--) Where do you live? Most of the workshops are in Philadelphia but There are occasional EE workshops on the west coast, and they used to do a graduate level (not Mandatory that you've done the first, but would make way more sense to you) "EE II" is what I called it, and that is a week done out in the Sierras. Spectacular and life changing. If you could only attend one, do the main, first one. And no, you don't then have to go seek out to recruit others, or raise money for it. And if you want to go back to do "Team" to support a friend of yours that goes (not always a good idea, but can be) you can. And btw, "team volunteer" was free to go back and do. I've paid once to do the Main " EE I" workshop, and have done Team 4 times since. Once did team with H and OMG, those years in our marriage were our PEAK years, and probably why I've hung in here with this whole MLC thing. And like you said, the support groups and communities that form as a result of such clear connections with other people at their/our core levels, without judgement, are life long. Literally. One of my favorite memories is of a man who took it with me, trying to find himself and wanting to help others. A GREAT husband, btw. He is now in Congress! (So at least one guy there is REAL...) I won't say his name in case it's not for public knowledge, but I love that EE gave him that clarity. I would not have done ANY stand up comedy or any theater if I had not given myself permission to find and follow my bliss, which I learned to do at EE. Last but NOT LEAST, I THINK it is one of the only groups like this that don't try to manipulate you, estrange you from other "non" members, or get money. Actually sort of like AA except you are not brought together due to alcoholism. BTW, at the start You do have to commit for the 4 days you are there, that you won't use mind altering substances. About half the time, right when that commitment is requested, someone gets up then and there to leave. Which is fine. I sound like a cult member and probably could make a commercial for it. Yeah, it's a good thing. I think I need to go back to do Team and get some dang clarity and an "action plan" again...
2nd, too tired to post much else now. H is here, but fell asleep putting d9 to bed. Had d18's birthday party and it went touchingly well. We did the "downtown Hollywood nightspot" for dinner with her 8 friends, cousin and SIL....$$cha ching!! But you only get one 18th birthday. (I figure we can kick her out now and rent out her room since wth, she IS an adult after all....yes folks, I am joking....(but VC already knew that). Anyway, H saw her best friends and at the end of the night when we all hung out talking about boyfriends, including abusive wackos, "Mr. Wonderfuls", alcohol, college, etc. H witnessed two things he didn't truly know: 1st, that he has missed hundreds of nights of fun and memory building/bonding just like this one. I am close to her friends and they confide a lot in me, and that's the 2nd thing he witnessed. It seemed to strike him that they call my "Mama --J" and all hug me arriving and departing. It was a good night. D18 was happy. I wonder if he ever wonders what HE could have been to these girls. Many of them lack a parent, and hence, their need level. Ohhhh, he has missed much. (sigh)
I think I will go wake up H, b/c he's leaving Sunday night, which is in about 15 hours....If nothing financially GREAT happens to me here in the next 6 months, I expect I probably will take d9 up to Alaska for a "try". First I want to define 'try' with H, and agree on whatever we can. I know I have to do that BEFORE I leave here. And yes, the plan so far, is to keep this house which I have put a lot into, solo btw, and thereby keep an exit strategy for the winter if it gets to be too much for me, OR if H goes nutty/nasty on me....hey, I am working on trusting fully, but I don't want to be an idiot...
talk to you soon. What's up at your end? Where are you posting now? And again, what state do you live in? j-
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M: 57 H: 60 M: 35 yrs S30,D28,D19 H off to Alaska 2006 Recon 7/07- 8/08 *2016* X = "ALASKA 2.0" GROUND HOG DAY I File D 10/16 OW DIV 2/26/2018 X marries OW 5/2016
Hey 25yrs, the bd party sounded like fun, and like you, my S's friends all like me.
I am posting in "very crazy?" in uhhh, I can't remember where!! Anyway, I live way down south in alabammy, so I guess I can't go up and get indoctrinated into the way of the EE life. Oh well... I guess I will just have to read about it. Well, I am going to go get a little sunshine, actually it is starting to look like rain, darn it.
WAR DAMN EAGLE!! I went to Auburn b/c H was in veterinary school back then. I loved him being a vet, and was so glad he wasn't "a people doctor b/c they don't have time for family".... Yep, I actually said that....anyhow, more later. j-
M: 57 H: 60 M: 35 yrs S30,D28,D19 H off to Alaska 2006 Recon 7/07- 8/08 *2016* X = "ALASKA 2.0" GROUND HOG DAY I File D 10/16 OW DIV 2/26/2018 X marries OW 5/2016
How did you like it down here? The people aren't as backwards as they still sometimes portray us on the enlightened news shows. We value knowledge and self-improvement as much as the next person. But when the news acts like it is a fearful place in the south, I don't care, because then maybe those dang yankees will stop flooding down here. Just joking, there are yankee relatives on my mothers side, but we don't talk about them much, bless their hearts.
Well, I want to hear of any updates in your sitch, and are you getting any closer to making a definite decision? If you do keep your house there, and you can escape to it when you absolutely have to, then that is a great solution, isn't it?
So, you are going to give it a try? Yea for you. I think it is the right decision for you, just my opinion. But, I do think you should really give it all you can, and you do have that escape clause. It will be great for your kids to have all of you in one place. So, when is departure for the great cold land? Can you take all the comforts of home, as well as several sad lamps?
vc, just between us, don't you think you'd have to have a brain tumor surgery to miss a "mother son" function your kid loved to attend? I know I would. But then, we are amazing women....who love the south.....even those fakes at U of A... j-
PS being raised in Washington DC made Alabama a shock. When Bear Bryant died and they had so much RUCKUS, like the Pope had died, I made a tiny little remark that got cold stares....I said,"He was just a football coach, right?"
yikes!! my bad
M: 57 H: 60 M: 35 yrs S30,D28,D19 H off to Alaska 2006 Recon 7/07- 8/08 *2016* X = "ALASKA 2.0" GROUND HOG DAY I File D 10/16 OW DIV 2/26/2018 X marries OW 5/2016
You're lucky you didn't get lynched, dissing the Bear like that!!! The pope dying wouldn't have gotten as much press here as BB dying. Oh football is BIG down here, especially the Iron Bowl, Alabama vs Auburn, my goodness you could cut the tension with a knife. Did you ever attend one of those?
It's funny every year the news will do a story on a couple with one being for Alabama, and one being for Auburn.
And, no, I wouldn't miss any function my S really wanted to attend, unless I was in the hospital under anesthesia at the time. I have gone to stuff while I was sick, the fever gave me a nice glow!!! And are you asking that because of any certain reason, if you know what I mean??
What do you mean those fakes at the U of A? What did you think of the south, really? Weren't we all so nice? Most of us anyhow.
So, when your D18 graduates this May, will you be going up to AK shortly thereafter? Have you started packing? After sunny CA, what the heck do you take up there?
Hey 25yrs! When I was in 8th - 10th grades, I lived in AL too Anyway, have to say I was a Bama fan. Anyway, fill us all in on what's going on & what your plans are. You've been so good to me & giving me advice on my alien!
Me: 38 H: 35 S4, S5, S10 Bomb 01/07 Wanted D - nothing would change his mind Numerous A's prior to D bomb; EA prior/during D bomb Piecing 04/07 Deployed for a year 05/07 Still Piecing 2010 M 11 yrs 05/10
VC, yeah I do know what you mean....chk out the new post on that topic for ...whatever...Sorry, but i am sympathetic to Spouses when the poster makes ME weary...know what I mean? I should get your private email sometime so I don't have to speak in code...Geez...
Too much to do right now to post well. Gotta go but I will post more later. How's your sitch? And if this locks up, I'll put another one under "Piecing." Hope all is well and Cadesmom, I think I posted to you elsewhere. take care, j-
War Damn Eagle!!!!
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M: 57 H: 60 M: 35 yrs S30,D28,D19 H off to Alaska 2006 Recon 7/07- 8/08 *2016* X = "ALASKA 2.0" GROUND HOG DAY I File D 10/16 OW DIV 2/26/2018 X marries OW 5/2016