Well...the WOA thing is actually news to me. She told me before that she was QT and AOS...and those are difficult for me due to circumstances beyond my control. (and thats a very frustrating position to be in). WOA certainly doesn't come naturally to me, as you might imagine from all the FOO talk. we're more of a "words of DEfamation" type family. but this seems like something that can be learned...and unlike some other LL's, this one shouldn't require any resources that are in short supply...time, energy, stamina...money! let me see...