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Nop,

Ouch! Sorry to hear about your kidney stone. I hope it passes quickly.

I understand your logic for HD and that does make sense. But I have doubts that even this simple, targeted plan will go anywhere with MrsHD because it makes her too vulnerable.

While I'm at it, let me just say that I think it might be helpful if you could lay out a little more of your background thoughts. Thinking back when you tried to give me advice, you gave a few short, direct, specific recommendations, that made little sense to me. I was to either accept it on faith, or not accept it at all. In the heat of battle, there is no faith. Everything is questionable, even this board.

That is why I go to some length to explain my rationale. I may miss something in the posters sitch, so an explanation can still make the comments useful. Also, understanding why the recommendation is made can create confidence in the person taking that action. Just doing what you say on blind faith was a little more than I was willing to swallow. Thirdly, understanding the thought process is a valuable learning tool.

Don't bother to answer now. Maybe sometime later....


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Hi, Cobra:

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While I'm at it, let me just say that I think it might be helpful if you could lay out a little more of your background thoughts. Thinking back when you tried to give me advice, you gave a few short, direct, specific recommendations, that made little sense to me.
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I have laid out by thoughts about Hairdog's situation to Hairdog many times over the years, some of it on this thread and probably 50 others. My suggestions have changed little. Hairdog can do what he likes with it.

If you will go back and look at my advice to you on your early threads, I did give you reasons, you just didn't like most of them.

I don't want anyone to follow me on blind faith. I am not Jesus and don't want to be.

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I have laid out my thought process here many times. I think that you may find some of it quite foreign to you. I deal with abstracts and have no problem back figuring, lots of people have difficulty with that particular way of problem solving. I find it very quick and highly reliable.

Thanks for the well wishes. If this one passes instead of just rattling about, it will officially be number 27. I don't know how many small ones I have passed.

All the best,
-NOPkins-


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She just sent me a long article on non-violent communication

Hairdog, I read most of the article she sent to you. What I see is she wants you to tie one hand behind your back while she plays with her set of flexible/changing rules. I don't see Ms. HD playing by the non-violent communication model.

WTG on not caving in when Ms. HD said she was canceling the credit card. I have had my times when BB did something similar and I tried to smooth over the issue.

It sure helps me to have a little "what ever" mindset.

There must have been cr@p karma or something similar in the air yesterday. It was also flying in Lou land. Guess what? “What ever.”

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NOP's,

Hope you pass that stone quickly. My H had one last summer, he never did pass it either we think we managed to dissolve it, and it was fairly good sized. Have you tried drinking straight black cherry juice? You can buy it at health stores. It's very tart and very strong, but seems to really help dissolve them. I'm not sure what is in the juice that dissolves the stone, but it was recommended to me by several RN's (my mom included), and amazingly...it seems to have worked.

Drinking real lemonade regularly is supposed to help keep them from forming as well. I can't imagine having 27 of those suckers! YIKES!

Hope you feel better quickly!
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As a pilot, I have spent a lot of time drilling on emergency procedures so that I don't have to do a lot of thinking in an emergency; responses are automatic.
I look at that picture and think, potential problems were seen and solutions practiced beforehand. Pro-active rather than re-active.

Hope those stones get their PITA selves out of the way soon.

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Originally Posted By: NOPkins

As a pilot, I have spent a lot of time drilling on emergency procedures so that I don't have to do a lot of thinking in an emergency, responses are automatic.


good grief, not another one?!?


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Thinking back when you tried to give me advice, you gave a few short, direct, specific recommendations, that made little sense to me. I was to either accept it on faith, or not accept it at all. In the heat of battle, there is no faith.

Just because you didnt have the previous experience to understand why, how, wherefore what you were being told, does not change the fact. Noone understands prior to learning, or they wouldnt have to be taught. \:\)
In the heat of battle all you have is faith. Faith in your training. Faith in your skills. (or indifferance but thats not HD) There is no guarantee.

Thats why you better make damn sure you are fighting for something you believe in.

If you question those you have previously accepted as successes or instructors, then thats fear talking.

Thirdly, understanding the thought process is a valuable learning tool
Yes but not nearly as valuable as doing the deed.
If you need a justification for things, thats just the 5's version of fear talking.
plan will go anywhere with MrsHD because it makes her too vulnerable
Thats exactly why it will work and you better believe she is going to fight, and wail and rail and bluff and bluster all the way to make sure she can trust being that way with HD.

Most times a simple 'because thats what I want' is far more effective then a 300 page thesis when it comes to emotions.

HD nice job this morning. ^5 I would just ignore the email. No response is necessary. you are not violent.
Nop hope your experience equivalent to childbirth is over soon couldnt do ultrasound? again.
I think Ill go have some cranberrry juice now.

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Cobra:
What she told me was that she happened to be reading this article as part of her practice as a mediator. She told me that, as she read it, she thought it made some good points about "needs" and how to express them.

Lil:
Sorry I didn't mention this, but she specifically said, "I'm reading this article on NVC, and I think it's got some good stuff, but I'm not saying we have a 'violence' problem."

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HD- You are the man!!

NOP- Sorry about the stones. I've had them and I think they were almost worse than when I had appendicitis when I was 6 mos. pregnant. Really closest a guy can get to childbirth. Kind of like a little concrete headed baby. BTW: Tell Mrs.NOP thanks for the Cohen suggestion. Working marvelously!


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HD, did she add any commentary or explanation to the article?
Not in the email. Just orally, as I've noted in my previous post.
Martelo, I really like this use of the article's principles to say, essentially, "thanks, but let's get back to the subject at hand."

And Cobra, I wanted to say that our MC had told us to use a quite similar type of communication about a year and a half ago. The article is more detailed and does a better job of explaining the concepts then the MC did.

Nopkins: got it. Thanks!

Hairdog

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