Thanks COG - I did hold back saying what I thought when he said he probably hadn't done enough to move this R forward. Instead, I just (calmly) said we can talk about it more when you get home (I thought I did well on that one)

And yes, I have to give him more credit, but I have always been pretty good on that front

And its true what you say about the "threat" - we have to leave that part out, as much as we want to throw it in their faces. But, I know as well as you do, that threatening NEVER works, it just pushes them further away. We have to be supportive, encouraging and yet still firm in our needs - not always easy to do.

Last night, when he said he didn't know why he lied, I told him "I am not your mother, and I don't want to be your mother. We are supposed to be in a relationship, if we are going to move this forward and get over the hurt, we have to be open and honest with each other." Of course, that is when he got defensive and said that if he had to live under a microscope all his life then he wasn't going to do it. I said it had nothing to do with living under a microscope, it had to do with two friends, living in a personal relationship and friends don't lie to each other, ever. He went silent (so I know that hit home)

He is on his way home (should take another 3 hours) but asked me if I wanted to meet him over at the shop because the Jeep had come in. I said "sure, I'd like to see it too". After all, I guess I should check out what half my money has bought too, right? - lol

Actually, I am looking forward to having the Jeep now, I think it will do us good to be able to go on some of the old forestry roads we used to travel when we first got together. Like old times.


Heywyre

M - 57
H - 65
1st A-bomb - Nov 27/02
2nd A-bomb - Dec 13/06
together 21 years
***************************
Insanity is doing something over and over and expecting different results (Albert Einstein)