Maybe what puts us where we are is a fear by both parties to deal with things head on. I find I am either an "on or off" type person when it comes to that. When I am on W sees it as controlling. W likes to feel that she is in control of her sitch, even though when it comes to M/R she does not know how to address things. When I try to jump in and save the day, it's seen as manipulative, but if I do nothing it's seen as apathetic. Kind of a no win. We need to see a C, but how do I present it?