fearless: It's hard to accept any advice coming from you, after expressing your delusion belief that OSU will defeat Kansas... however, your point is well taken. But wait: Why is it that, after two, three, four years of me doing everything/anything to try to show her how much I love her, that she can so easily deflect my wants/needs? My wanting her to want to make love with me out of love for me is a true statement. It's a concept to which she refuses to give any credibility. I'm trying to show her, by not dropping the issue, that she ignores it at her peril.