"Our non-5/intj friends like to poke fun of us with all our logic and "linear" thinking and such"
Even though I'm a 4 and an INFP, I also do a lot of what cac is describing in my work. People start spouting a bunch of information about their organization and its mission, "assuming" that I know that there is a problem with kids, old people, housing, dogs, or orchestras, and why raising money for these things is something that total strangers should give a rat's a$$ about. Oh yeah, they usually sprinkle in a ton of industry-specific acronyms-- I love it when they do that. They usually assume that as soon as you hear about the homeless dogs and old people you will just fork over the dough, no questions asked. They feel entitled to the money, and get pi$$ed when it's not forthcoming.
My job is to listen with the ears of an outsider, identify the unwarranted assumptions, build a foundation under them, make the case for why people should care about teaching homeless old people's dogs to play in the youth orchestra in the housing project, and follow up that caring with cold hard cash.
It's very hard for people to get outside their own heads and listen to what they're really saying... to notice how much of the story they're leaving out... and then they wonder why other people fill in the blanks all wrong. This also applies to giving instructions about chores.
