I think it is important to realize the OP is NOT the problem. The problem is that our S's made a choice to go outside their M for whatever need they had. Why they chose to do so is what we ponder. I can't imagine how being the OP in a triangle such as this could in any way be fulfilling to any well adjusted human being. I think the coin lady expresses alot of pain in what she says (whether she recognizes it or not). To allow yourself to be the OP in such a no win sitch says more about your emotional health than your character. It's sad no matter which way you look at it from.
