LFL, It seems you have to work on the relationship to improve the sex life, and simultaneously you work on the sex life to improve the relationship. And it all takes time, especially in my case, where the problems went on for many years. The NOPs make it look easy but they are two very special people...I have to remember that it's taken years to get to such a low point, that it will probably take years for significant improvement. I am grateful for the changes that have already occurred, and have faith that by doing what I am doing, in time things will fall into place. It just may take a long time,lol. I have read that intimacy is helping each other to become the best we can be. I like that definition.