Thanks for the info, jethro..another book to add to my db collection!!!It sure makes sense..although I can't decide which one I need..touching was never a biggie until I now see that i miss it..the gifts mean nothing, acts of service..not really..I guess between words of affirmation and quality time would probably be me..as far as h...he likes touch, but probably the words of affirmation..not sure though.Is is crazy that i have been with him so long and can't really pick just one for sure. I do know that last night I called him..I was nervous to call for fear of him thinking I am clinging or becoming neddy..anyway he completed his courses in the church lay leader program, and I am so excited and proud of him..because it is so important to him, and we were with other people at church this weekend and I never really had a chance to say how I felt, so I called..he actually sounded happy that I had called to tell him this. 3 months ago when we talked you could cut the tension with a knife..infact the past year he has seemed like I am wasting his time talking, as I was trying to make conversation and we were going through the motions of talking. So I would say this is a huge step for us and I felt great that I had done it. I do wish that maybe sometime he will ask me how I am, or hows work...some small message that he cares. My question then is "is he afraid to show he still cares...or he already knows that he doesn't have any feelings for me anymore..but does not know how to let me know. So, I feel good..but will let him make some moves..seems I say that and then I do the asking, or calling.. Sue