Hi...I have thought about asking h for coffee or something..just to break some ice...yet I don't know now...went to church this a.m. and h was up front singing with their group and for some reason I noticed that his ring was off...at first I thought maybe I just missed it, but no...it is off. I know you might think he took it off to shower and forgot it...he has never taken that ring off in 24 yrs except when he was working on a greasy pipe or car...so....is he trying to tell me without having to talk to me that he doesn't want to be married?? You know I have been pretty patient, try to understand but **** it if he want this m over then get the balls to come to me and tell me...I'll move on best I can...it is this sh** of not knowing that is driving me bonkers sometimes.. of course all these things seem to come up when I am at my "emotional time" and I just feel like giving up and getting on with a d or whatever he wants... We went out to lunch with mil and sil, and they asked us over tonight for pizza and games...he is coming by soon to pick me up..will see if ring is on... don't know if I should ask. I seem to be so good...then something occurs and I feel like there is no hope. Whew...I feel better Sue