Miss Lisa, Your words are yes, yes, yes, so wise. Our H's do indeed need to feel loved, and worshiped. That's what my H said to me, he didn't feel loved, I didn't show him love. Of course my response was filled with defensiveness, anger, etc. So to turn the situation around does take time, and the actions. NO WORDS. They have to find their own words. It's so funny how we knew/know them so well, what we can say to make them smile at themselves, but for some reason (we weren't happy, our own MLC, we felt taken advantage of) we witheld the love. Hindsight is 20/20 they say. But I think the overall question here is, do we show them love when they are treating us with disrespect? Blaming us for everything wrong in their lives. Did you get that from your H? Sarah