8, obviously if the idea of the PA is too much to bear, then living with her and trying to DB is not gonna work. I think what does happen is that we get all caught up in the physical aspect of the A and it's hard to get past. I know, in my case, if the A was with another guy and the physical aspect was in my face, I don't know how patient I'd be either. Just be sure that this stand is the one you want to take and that now is the time you want to take it. Oh, I just wanted to mention that all this macho crap about "respect" is often nothing more than emotional upchucking! There are many ways to gain respect, one is to boot her ass to the curb and another is to look at the impact of doing so on your children and continuing to fight for your M, with your W at home. To take the pain and keep plugging away I think also demands respect, it doesn't mean weakness. This said, I have no problem with someone choosing to set limits but please don't believe the only way to maintain respect is by booting her. This belief can really cut down on the options you can consider.