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8,

Astimegoeson is right about basic respect.

However.......

There's an interesting book called The Way of a Superior Man by David Deida you might want ot pick up.

If you can ignore his "drop your woman if she's not into you" crap, he's very, very insightful about sexual polarity in relationships. He points our that if a man loses his mission in life, he masculinzes his woman and the sexual polarity/attraction is lost. This may or may not apply to your situation.

If you want to keep divorce busting and can ignore some of his buddhist/secular drop your woman stuff, it's a great book. I wasn't quite able to figure our the tantric sex stuff he talks about. ;-)

If you want a more Christian version of this, try Wild at Heart by Ron Eldridge.

Yes, Lord of the Rings is a bit tough to get through.

Maybe see the movies again...extended version ;-)

Have a bunch of guys over and see it over three weekends.

Here's another poem...it's by a character called Eomer, who is about to charge the enemy, knowing, perhaps, it will be to his death. But he will fight, none the less. It's in that wonderful Anglo-Saxon alliterative cadence...it's dark, brooding and brave but it speaks of a warrior's heart. Of course, he survives the battle and win's fame and glory. The first song I quoted you was the funeral song for his uncle, Theoden, who died in the great battle.

Eomer's Song

Out of doubt, out of dark to the day's rising
I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing.
To hope's end I rode and to heart's breaking:
Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!

It gives me the goosebumps....

Come on 8, let's sing it together... at least the first 2 lines:

Out of doubt, out of dark to the day's rising
I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing.

Brothers in arms? Yes?

--Theoden




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Update;
Thank you Ben for getting the prayer chain started. BIL has biopsy of the tumor Thurs. 10-11 AM, continued prayers would be appreciated.

In the mean time, my brother was admitted with multiple blood clots in his lungs. No other problems have been found and the docs are saying medical treatment alone should be enough, but obviously we are worried.

These medical emergencies have got me thinking. God indeed works in mysterious ways. My BIL had a terrible siezure, BUT without that, the tumor would have gone undetected and could have gotten much worse without treatment. My brother is unhealthy in so many ways. He has for years rejected everyone's observation that he is overweight, underexercised, smokes too much, drinks too much, eats too much crap, and generally won't take care of himself. He has the chance now to change so many things before it is too late, if it were not for chest and back pain he would not know about the blood clots which were indeed waiting to kill him.

As I look back over my marriage I see so many missed opportunities. Chances I was given to change the course of events for the better, but missed them because of selfishness, or pride, or indifference.

W left tonight to be with family for BIL biopsy. I am encouraged by this because up til now she has cut them out as much as she has me, so to see her pick up and leave, esp brand new job, shows me some hope.

Unfortunately, prior to leaving, I was treated to an example of just how confused she is. W had spoken to her S today, my SIL had told W that I had called them several times over the last few days. My W asked me if I was worried about W not telling me what was going on with BIL and was that why I kept calling?

I simply said I was not worried about W telling me, I was worried about BIL and SIL, had called to let them know I was thinking about them and to lend my support. W asked didn't I think she would call them and let me know?

Needless to say, I felt like saying I havn't the slightest idea anymore what you might or might not do, but didn't, just told W that I knew she would tell me any news that she heard, but that I also wanted to talk to them.

I met my BIL at the exact same time that my W did, we have known him for 24 years, and now I don't have the right to call him when he is in the hopital with a brain tumor?

As W was getting leaving, I gave her a hug, told it was for everyone there, and then reminded her that I was still the same person. Her response, of course you are, why? I said that i just wanted her to know that. She then thanked me for getting a get well card and drove off.

I know she feels guilty because I have had more contact with her family then she has since the bomb, but they are my family as well, and right now I couldn't care less if she feels guilty, she should.


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OK, now I am just venting. Before W left, we were talking about my brother's condition, and that she is going to be up there to visit. Well I had cards for both brother and BIL, wrote out card for bro, signed but left blank card for BIL(based on previous discussion).

I had left both cards together by her stuff. She picks them up and asked what hospital my brother is in. I thought that was a good thing, when will I learn? I started to tell her, and she gets this confused look on her face and I ask what is wrong, she said she didn't know how much time she would have, etc. I told her no big deal, I would just mail it in the morning.

She has known this man for 25 years. She has laughed with him, fought with him, had him stand in her wedding, attended his, stood at his children's babtism, buried relatives with him, shared joy, triumph, and disaster with him, but is unable to make time to visit him in the hospital?

Truth be told, it is probably a good thing, no telling what he would have said to her is she showed up.


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"Because it is in giving that we receive; In forgiving that we obtain forgiveness; In dying that we rise to eternal life" St. Francis
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