"It would be a real turn on to me to see you getting all hot and bothered by it." That is how i feel. It would be a turn on for me to see her get some pleasure out of something sexual.
She claims, the most pleasure I can give her is to play with her hair and rub her back.
At one time she would have been hot for me to play with her clit and related area, but that was before 1981.
right now it would be an improvement if she said, "Yes, I understand you want to see me have pleasure, but right now I don't feel much pleasure from sexual things but I still like the physical closeness.
Maybe, in her own way, that is what she does say minus the fact she doesnt see that I do want to do things to get her excited for her and my benefit.
How do you really feel about it? I would like to find something sexual that gave her some degree of sexual pleasure. It would feel like what we were doing together, was something that gave us both a buzz and was some form of an emotional connection builder.
Some guys like to get pee'd on or defecated on, so smelling is not too far-fetched. The first one wouldn't bother me, its relative sterile but the deficating isn't even in the picture. Too many e-coli etc and the smell is gross.
(presumably inferring that intercourse is the only REAL form of sex, just like BB is stating.. Same here.
Problem if regular ses isnt something she likes, most other stuff is also off the list.
