LFL... You are sweet; you left out the " dork" when you quoted me. You nailed ( on MJ's thread) what I was trying to say regarding psychological effects of over-the-top alpha male behavior.

With the wrestling thing, my H nad I hadn't built up enough of a foundation for me to enjoy that kind of play. As you said somewhere,lol, the relationship has to support the interaction. I know this because when I was ready for that kind of thing, my H wasn't.

It's been said over and over that the key to improving the sex is improving the relationship. And it's true. Honeypot once coined the phrase compasionate PM, aka " Schnarch with a heart." Stay tough on message, give your love. NOP may have seemed overboard alpha male, but the turning point occurred when he took Mrs.NOP's concerns seriously. And he emphasizes this. He is not an extremist; IMO, extreme doesn't work. I bet Cobra will see more changes as he ditches some of the anger and softens.

LFL, I find myself agreeing to all your posts. And I am not trying to butter you up to get some M & M's ( except the green ones).