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Therefore, what they want sexually is to be dominated. Any man who has mastered the "tricks" of being a strong "top" sexually will have no trouble getting action. Most of the advice that BF is offering the other men is valid because he is trying to demonstrate how to be a strong "top". IMO this is "valid" advice but not "good" advice. Here's why. BF made the point that most of the time if he tells a woman what to do she will do it. This is because of the woman's Pavlovian response as a sexual "bottom". OTOH, as we all know, if a HDM in any way tries to placate a woman in an attempt to get sex he is doomed to failure because he is acting too much like a "bottom". My point is that there is a difference between being a strong man sexually and being a strong "top" sexually. If you "tell" a woman to be sexual she probably won't say "no" but if you "ask" a woman to be sexual she might say "yes" with a part of her that is better, more whole, than just her "bottom" instinct. But it takes a strong man to risk hearing "no" in that way.


Mojo, manytimes your posts and analogies are simply brilliant. [cough]This is not one of those times. [cough] I think your work out burned some fat cells and released some latent THC from your youth. hehe.

I wouldnt call it a pavlovian response. Ive never said anything about telling a woman to have sex with you. [snort] Id love to see someone try that. Ive also never talked about using 'tricks' or tactics. They DO NOT work. Thats what a womans testing is designed to expose and eliminate. Some just dont know when to stop, because its harming them, not protecting them.

OG is right on the money with WYSIWYG.
a couple days ago when I mentioned the word 'tricks' I wasnt referring to tactics, I was referring to sticking to R's that had no future.

There is nothing strong or masculine about appealing to the girl. You are right about that. Women dont approach that, they settle for it. That kind of activity is for entertaining monkeys, men with no boundaries and guys who have nothing better to do then chase after whatever will say yes. Like the salsmen who go for the shotgun approach of asking 100 and hoping for 1.

It will occasionally git them one night. Its not going to do anything whatsoever for HD.
There is nothing wrong with a little levity here and there to show you dont take yourself so serious. I actually have to remind myself, because when I become stressed or busy, I turn into the emotionless 'robot'. I dont have time for ridiculous, irrelevant emotions. unfortunately thats not toungue in cheek.
It would be nice to encounter a woman who didnt personalize that and could point it out in positive way when I was slipping.
Actually I did, she was really really good at the female thing. Really good. Really aware. She abused her power. She tried to use it on me once and I told her "knock that off, It doesnt work on me. Save that sh!t for the customers.' Unfortunately she chewed prescription opiates like PEZ on friday nights. That didnt stop my attraction, but I was able to arrest my actions. eventually.


but if you "ask" a woman to be sexual she might say "yes"
Uhhuh. even though HOW its done is important-- since this is a venue of words, your suggesting that the men should supplicate. stop that. You cant 'tell' anyone to do anything. They always have a choice. The guy who held your hand didnt tell you what to do, he told you what he wanted to do to you. You were free to react as you wished. You could have slapped him and acted shocked and offended. You could have been 'disgusted'. You chose to be open to it.
When you H bit you on the leg, what was he appealing too? You post about how to make love/live as a woman was amazing. Tell you what, you stay on your side of the fence, and Ill stay on mine. LOL.

But it takes a strong man to risk hearing "no" in that way.

Id like to hear one HDW in here who wouldnt love for her H to pick her up throw her over his shoulder and stomp up to the bedroom with the intention of having his way with her, while she struggled and 'wrestled' against him. I would love to see GGB do that. or just blow thru her resistance by 'teasing' her up and down to having a real O or just pinning her down and 'making' her O. shrug. all in good time.

That takes a lot of 'guts' for a man to do and then figure out if she really doesnt want it, or if she is just 'playing' or insecurely objecting. It takes even more for a guy who wants to be 'respectful' 'nice' and not push her 'boundaries' when she is saying 'dont do that'.
If a woman believes my 'dont do thats' she'll never have a chance. She has to have a butt load of confidance in who she is as a woman.

Putting yourself in the face of rejection and then not personalizing it, if and when it comes is a real demonstration of strength and self assuredness.

Oh yeah. in that post when I mentioned post partum women not being attractive, I was mostly referring to the the fact that they are not sexually available and in the majoriy of cases not inclined (due to hormones). I mentioned that cause I noticed what most of you fixated on in my remark. I would imagine that the emotions of being a father and the wonder and appreciation would more then compensate for the temporary physical and visual changes.