Yeah, I'm pulling for another WWME weekend. So far, she's diggin' her heels in. Perhaps I need to change my tone a bit to something more along the lines of remember how good things felt after we went to WWME, I'd like to get back to that place, and am thinking maybe another shot at the weekend might do us some good. And then just let it sit, bring it up once in a while the same way.... I've tried to get her to do the dialog thing they teach, but she's been extremely PA about it. Always maybe later, or if we do she kind of clams up.

I do know the drill, its just that I'm weary of always being the one to provide the motivation, KWIM. I'm trying to take your post to heart and figure out a way to just be hands off and be patient. We kind of have the deck stacked a little against us, being both first born type As, both Pisces (not that I put much stock in astrology, but one of my friends from college, also a groomsman at our wedding was big into that and told us that we were a bad combination...that has never really left my mind), and both a little of introverted.

I have been lately doing a better job at GAL. I've been good at getting to the Y to work out, and am starting to look purty good if I may say so myself , and she's noticed too. I'm also starting to do more things outside the home, inviting her but then going anyway when she balks, and doing better at taking the lead when we do things like going out to dinner.

Thanks Corri. Still scratching my head a bit on how to become more "manly" without being pushy in the context you cited. I still have issues with pent up resentment now and again, and am trying to figure out how to do away with that without putting any of it on her.