Well Kansha, you certainly get my vote for being most patient DBer. I have followed the Retrouvaille steps with you, and was hoping for a lightning bolt to strike your h, but then I'm impatient (I only waited 2.5 years compared to your....?) And yes, I was praying for you guys, for a lightning bolt in fact. But I'm glad to hear that you came out smiling. That in itself is a major feat for that h of yours, isn't it? So I hope this is the beginning of the light in the tunnel, so to speak.