Muddle, actually our values are pretty much in synch (except the one about cheating on your spouse!) and on the whole we do a good job of being consistent. Probably the thing to sit down and discuss is how we're going to deal with the challenges of our D moving into the teenage years. Discussing this will allow us to deal with anger, discipline, encouragement , how to support each other and how we can work together in this regards. I think that would less of a "I'm right and you're wrong" kind of talk and it would cover all the problem areas. I thinkt to discuss "values" right now would be seen as another indication to my W that, once again, SHE is the one with the problem and you better believe she would shove that in my face, too. So those are my thoughts for now. Tonight she was in an awsome mood, it was older D's birthday and we had an enjoyable family evening. D wanted a McDonalds dinner, great fare for a vegetarian, I must say But tonight we were a loving family celebrating a special event. We must be thankful for every one of those. Thanks for dropping by!