Karen,

I disagree. Your very rebuttal of my male desires sounds very much like a form of bashing because you are saying that my wishes for a boob job are over the top on things which can be asked for. This is what I am disagreeing on. I can ask for anything I want and I should feel free to do so.


Lil,

My problem is that you told her of your preference very bluntly WHILE she was vulnerable (as NOP pointed out) when you were ML.

And that is why I am willing to apologize to her, for hurting her feelings but not for expressing what I want.

The fact that you were honest in expressing a valid pov does not negate the fact that you were wrong to bring it up when you did THE WAY you did, and then label her reaction as rooted in FOO issues.

I will agree to this, and maybe it wasn’t so much FOO based as feminist based.

What you said was rude-- evn though authentic AND true-- and rudeness is not the way to foster intimacy.

I hear ya, but I wasn’t trying to foster intimacy….. That phase is still somewhere down the road.

I'm through with this particular discussion.

Good. Me too.


Cobra