Thanks 1210. I know she was pissed and previously I would have approached her and tried to make it better, not this time. If she can't handle the fact that a 12 year old child cannot be expected to look after her mothers feelings as if she were an adult, too bad. That's beyond what we can talk about and "make better". Btw, thanks for checking in on Sol, he was way over the top and besides, he asked for a 2 x 4, so I went to the source! It seems to have put him back on an even keel, at least for today.