Quoting Jamesjohn:
"I stopped pushing W - at least as well as I could. But it didn't take me all the way.

I can't start pushing, can I?"


Nope, I don't think that "pushing" is ever really the answer. It can only take you so far.

In what ways can a person start "pulling" their relationship along? In what ways can a partner "draw" their spouse into "wanting" to fulfill their wants/needs/desires?


That's the million dollar question, JJ.

What really drove me to starting a new thread is that all of the negativity that characterized my M two years ago seems to be gone.

Go dark, act as-if, do a 180. All great techniques to turn things around.

But things have turned around. Problem is, the switch KAW referred to didn't get flipped on.

There's more. I know there is.

I saw Kent post somewhere that "piecing" is untested territory (or something like that). We have to be more innovative.

Maybe there's nothing else I can do. If that's the case, then I guess this thread will fizzle into oblivion.

But you've hit the nail on the head, JJ. How can I draw her into wanting to fulfil my needs?


Andy