Luke, just to let you know I too have heard all the lines you are now hearing, and where is my W? Still at home. Take heart. She's spinning you all the stuff from the WAW handbook. Try not to let it impede your efforts, keep doing what you are doing. I love that one about how sometimes R's just die, that's right up there with "it just happened" (my W's fav). Stay strong, accept that IS how she feels right now BUT remember feelings change and they change due to actions YOU will take. It's not guaranteed but what in life is. Chin up, my friend. I know it's hell but you are not alone.
LL quick addition here: remember this will take time, not weeks or months. It took how many years to get to where you are now? It will take time to repair it. Be patient! My W also refused counselling, I think it's par for the course. Hang in there.

Last edited by whatisis; 01/09/07 01:39 PM.

Divorced February 27, 2012.

"Only by love is love awakened".~ Ellen G White