AT, just for the record, our family is not abusive or addictive. I used that as an example of families where this kind of "tuck things under the carpet" mentality exists. Hope I didn't confuse you, EH! W's background is certainly from an abusive family and dad did slap mom around in the early years of the M. It's a shame my W hasn't tried to come to terms with all that sh!t instead, she just sees it all as too overwhelming and carries on burying it until it rears its ugly head. Hmm, Dad had an A and Mom was poor helpless victim, guess my W is determined to be Dad not Mom!