Thanks 1210, I just talked to my W about the Certificate courses I want to take and she's onside! Again, upgrading my skills and showing some interest in improving my career prospects is something I know she respects. So, I think its a GO! I just keep chugging along here. Hey, there might be some lonely single women in this course, who knows P.S. I haven't bought a Christmas gift yet! My W did suggest a specific present for my eldest D, I was in agreement. Gift buying will be a "team" effort this year.