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OG_Lou #850547 12/22/06 11:14 PM
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MERRY CHRISTMAS, LOU!!!!

We've missed you.

qoe100 #850548 12/23/06 03:03 AM
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QOE100 said Retirement is fabulous!!!!
WTG Jill. I am almost there too.

I read your thread. Glad to hear you found J. Yes you and everyone seems th have to kiss a few frogs till you meet "the one."

I have been reading SSM everyday and a few other forums but since most of the things in my life are the same, I decided to not say much. Other people have more interesting things to talk about.

Good advice about your dad. If he feels well enough to work on the car, let him.

Lou

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Hi, Lou-- glad you checked in. Y'all are having some pretty rough weather up there, huh?

I'll definitely listen to that podcast you mentioned. I downloaded all of them to my iPod and I listen to them when I walk my dog at night, but I hadn't listened to that one yet.

Merry Christmas Eve.

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Y'all are having some pretty rough weather up there, huh?
Not any problems here! Denver is 550 miles south of here and they have winter weather/snow. In the lower 40's here in the afternoon, most of the time. Sunny and very little precipitation. Some years it is +50f and other years it is -25f. Our weather depends on how the jet stream is flowing.

I downloaded all of them to my iPod and I listen to them when I walk my dog at night, but I hadn't listened to that one yet.
Greg & Karen McGreer have several radio programs with information/insights here and there. Their program is Schnarchy but with a mix of other therapist POVs and experiences.

I suggest you take some time and listen to all most of the pod casts while taking notes. My MP-3 player has a timing option so I can write down where in the pod cast a topic is located and go back to it using the fast forward or fast reverse button.

In one pod cast someone talked about Greg McGreer having MS and I gather he has ED. Lots of talk about ED meds and devices.

The pod cast that had the most information about Greg's MS was at a different location. If I can find it again, I will post it.

What I thought you could use the most, was on podcast004 and 005. Both guests announce their telephone numbers. I haven't Googled any of the guests to see if they have any books or web articles.

The main point I thought would be helpful (you most likely have enough information already) was about how some overly sexual mothers affected sons, the son's marriage, and other R's he has.

Another problem is, I don't know the dates of the pod casts. They might be 5 to 8 years old. One guest was in practice for 30 years and was married for 50 years. At that rate, she might have retired several years ago, and you couldn't contact her if you wanted.

Merry Christmas Eve. and Merry Christmas, and
Happy Hanukkah, also known as the Festival of Lights or Festival of Rededication, is an eight-day Jewish holiday that starts on the 25th day of Kislev, which may be in December, late November, or, while very rare in occasion, early January.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanukkah

So nice to hear from you Lil.

Lou

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MC appointment for Dec was uneventful. More about accepting the OP for who they are and letting of resentments. The main point was about moving forward and changing the attitude in the household and doing more positive things together.

I said I was going to cut back on working and tidy up my work area in the basement. I also said I have given up on some parts of our R because wanting that area to improve and it hasn't, is unproductive and is wearing me out.

As with most religious based MC I suppose, faith was discussed more than anything else.

Lou

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Lou,
Maybe it's time to tell MC that you're there for your R, not to discuss your faith. Would BB have a cow if you said that?

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Jill Maybe it's time to tell MC that you're there for your R, not to discuss your faith.
I do that some. The topic goes to "this is how he works and changes M's." For now I wil finish the program. sometimes change comes when you least expect it.

Would BB have a cow if you said that?
I said about the same thing at home ( more spiritual than MC as I would expect it to be ) and BB thinks because not much changed when we did see a C (women's issues expert ) back in the early 90's, that conventional C won't work.

The current MC isn't what I would prefer, but it is settling a few side issues. Sometimes I feel like chocolateeyes and think whatever ( don't care much either way) because I don't see many direction changes, although there have been some intensity changes.

Right now I am trying to keep Lou in good spirits as some of this giving up has caused me to not like some of the things I feel and probally some of the things I do. I am analytically trying to do the right thing even when I don't expect there will be a payoff or move to what I want.

Life isn't bad but it is a lot easier when a person does something when they want to do it rather than doing things because it mostly seems fair, the civil, or expected thing to do.

Lou

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Lil, I take back what I said about you or others being a sissy. It was -20 the other night and -6 in the morning and the wind was blowing. I sure could use a warm fire to sit by. It's OK when the sun shines, like right now but at night, burr.

I just read "He: Understanding Masculine Psychology" by Johnson, Robert.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masculine_psychology

http://www.amazon.com/He-Understanding-Masculine-Psycho...ennial/dp/0060963964

The book is 80 pages of mythology and retelling the myths. Some concepts come across as almost literal, some myths are representative.

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I am reading "Understanding The Enneagram" by Riso & Hudsom . I don't know if it is good or bad but I see many low level 6 traits but not the higher level ones in myself as I read. I still don’t see how to use all the wings and alternatives talked about in the book.


The emotions between BB and me are toned down some and some good things have taken place.

BB still was on the "what if the power goes out" and all of the bad things that could happen. She watches too much news and if an area has a problem, she starts to worry excessively. OCD? I bought the stand-by generator. 7,000 continuous watts with a surge capacity of 12,0000 watts, and it has a Honda 13 HP engine.


Sex once a month:
I was concerned about my sister’s lung cancer she was being treated for last year (she never smoked or had any unusual exposures) and concerned about my 25 years breathing brake dust ( asbestos ), so I has a CT scan.

I picked up the report from radiology because my Dr. is sloooooow. The report said I had 2 nodules on a lung but it was most likely from an infection I had at sometime.

BB gets concerned about me and offers sex after complaining about some things I should have done for her. Anyway I said no.

Same thing the next day and that is when I said how I have these feelings of wanting to go some place by myself and that I was depressed. I said some was because of the lack of bonding we I want us to have but we don't. (So I am too fused according to Schnarch.)

I said if we could have some pleasant times instead of the stand-offish thing that was going on for the last couple of weeks, I would want to have sex with her, based on some good shared times.

I said pity sex or sex because she felt I might have a medical condition wasn't (he will be a goner soon) wasn't what I wanted.

I guess I am becoming the girl in the R, wanting something like emotional warmth before the sex happens. Sure, I can fight through the off color remarks and get it, but that isn’t very satisfying some times.

Anyway, the next day things went according to plan. More emotional closeness and we did have sex but I still have to take it very slow and gentle.

A couple of days later the Dr, called and said not to be concerned about anything, the spots on the lungs were calcifications due to an infection, bla,bla, bla, and come back in July.

So new the good glow we had for a few days started to cool off. Same old patterns. BTDT. She did suggest to go uot to eat to a place I really like but she is so so with the place.

I haven’t posted much because when I do, it sounds like the same old thing, just a little different twist. I think not much will change till I quit working at home all together, get rid of all of my business things, buy that patio home BB wants, and sit with her most of the day, being attentive, rubbing her feet and treating the pets almost like children.

Lou

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Lou,

So glad you are ok.

Karen

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