lostgal H volunteered to rub my back!
What is in the air these days? Lil then you making progress, WOW.

I don't imagine you have cried yourself to sleep,
Almost Lostgal, so don't think guys aren't effected by lack of affection if enough time goes by. It's more than sex some men miss.

but maybe "hoisted one extra"
LG, I have a strict, bordering on compulsive, limit of one per hour or even one in two hours, so the answer is no, I haven't hoisted a few extra ones. I never had more than two drinks in a day. I don't understand guys downing a 6 pack and a 12 pack I would bust.

Now what I have done is take care of myself on several occasions.

you still are wondering why they can't 'feel your pain' Yes, yes, and yes. I now other people see things differently so I understand the SO not seeing my/your pain/joy/empathy.

Having your SO deny you THAT is in itself abuse.
I am beginning to see it like that more everyday. I still have a difficult time forcing my version of connecting onto BB.

For an individual in the 4 category,
I have two hands and two feet, does that count as a 4?

Just kidding. I know a little about the system, took the quick test, most of my scores were fairly close so I don't know what I am other than what I seem to do most days.

I have read many other books so lost track of some of the Enneagram knowledge.

A MUST is to work on yourself to countermand the vilification you get at home.
Countermand the vilification? That sounds a little strong, put that way. Is that what you wanted to say?

The first time I read this line I thought you were saying to validate yourself and don't worry what the SO does or doesn't do. Build up your own self-esteem as much as you can. Some of my first readings are off a little. I can spell Toys "R" Us correctly.

(PS I do believe that the various medicines that assist the circulatory system and reduce plaque (or assist its breakdown), may have significant effect on mental function and benefit the quality of a persons character/daily interaction with those close to them)
are you referring to your H particularly? Which medicines do what for people?

I have teinus?(ringing of the ears)
Me too but not BB. Ear Ringing; Noise, Ear; Tinnitus

stark quiet makes me hear EVERYTHING!
With me, quiet emphasizes the ringing/crickets sounds to the point it starts to take over mt mind. Low volume, background sounds, lessens the tinnitus problems.

When I worked at the group-home, I noticed the most insecure boys that could hide their insecurity, were the ones that had the radios on all night.

H can't be woken with a bomb
Lostgal, what thunderstorm? We had one last night??? Lou raises his hand and says, "Me two."

Must be a guy thing. I heard it was on one of the Discovery Channels. Woman wakes up=baby lives, baby passes on genes, especially to female babies.

leaving to your own room. With LUCK, she may come visit you. It may work...*hugs*
I did get one visit for 20 minuets. It felt like crumbs. If I wait long enough, she might visit me like 2X a year.

No, I got tired of some of BB's pickyness. I had my CPAP checked out, it's normal and not noisy. I moved back into the master bedroom against BB weak protests. I said we are going to be together or live even more separate lives. She didn't like it at first but "what the hay" can't lose what you don't have. I said if I was that bad of a H, that noisy to sleep near her, why does she live with me?

We went to the in-laws TG dinner on the 23rd. BB liked everyone that was there including (3) new people.

She was glad she went but still hanging on to some resentment because according to BB "I went over her/BB's head" and made sure we were invited (already had 2 indirect invites through our daughter and SIL and SIL's dad to me, telling me how to get to his house).

BB is still saying that the only person that it's proper to do the inviting is the person that does the most cooking, he or she is the host and no one else.

We did TG dinner again yesterday at our house because one guest couldn't be there on the 23rd. BB did not invite the in-laws, but will for Christmas.

Most is calm now.


Lou