How true KAW, the past few days we have talked more, as over the years we have never talked about what we want and feel. We have just been going along, not unhappy, but now with the changes the past few years realizing there is more to life and marraige then what we had. H asked me tonight what I was doing tomorrow, i said I was helping his mother at church but why, he said he needed to go to staor and get some things for the apartment and would I like to go with. Please tell me you guys, is this strange, should i go, I want to help him in any way, but this is not the usual for a couple who is seperating. This is where I feel confused and where Dbing does not come into play. I have been trying to detach, take pressure off of him by not saying too much, not being around, yet he seems to want me to help him. Again, as I have said before I know we have to do what feels right for us, not what a book or well meaning people here say we should do.H asked son if he could help him move sofa, son kinda said ok. Last night d said she had a test, but did not care right now if she failed it. I talked to her tonight and I said please understand that your feelings are ok, but that our lives will go on. H has really seemed to be concerned about how the kids are doing, and he should be, but I never realized it because he has never been real close to s, but d yes and over the years he never worried about them, knew they did ok in school, knew they were good kids not into any trouble, and I was always here, took care of most everything they were involved in. Yet now I see a side of him that he has not let out, the emotional caring. I think this move is harder on him then on me. Sue