LL, deep down even though I am trying so hard to understnd this ff, my assuming mind wonders if this is part of picture, and time will tell, but for now with all that he has been saying I have to hold onto the hope that it is not. I have spent the last 3 years building up assumptions that have not be proven and have not been true, so I can't do that anymore. H did say to me today that I had not asked anymore about him moving out and I said" I figured when you were ready to tell me anything that you would" He said he went to look at one, and then no more was said. I did sk him to please tell our kids something ahead of time and not just spring it on them. Sounds like he is still going to leave and I am at peace with it right now. I don't know if I am in denile or really really hoping that it is what he needs to realize that he does want our m in the end. I am concerned about what our kids will think, what friends and family will think, but that is one thing in my life that I have to stop worrying about all the time, people are so mean and judge things without knowing the facts and people gossip, but will deal with that(ihope). i have a tendancy to judge before knowing all, and that too is an area that I need to work on. I did ask h if he wanted anything at liquorstore today, as we are going to friends tomorrow, and he asked me to go with him and then out to our church to clean up after a craft show there, so... that is more contact that he has asked me for in the past few months. I hope I can keep up my pma. Sue