sue, I know how you feel and what you think of ow, my h had ow friend for a long time before I even knew about her, he claimed to not tell me because i would be jelouse (well doesn't that count for somehting then, if i'd be jelouse then your not giving me what your giving her, otherwise I wouldn't care! ok sorry for that) we tried to work on things, didn't work because I didn't trust him about ow being friend and wanted him to no longer see or talk to her, (he lied) eventually he moved out, wasn't happy with me, had gotten to a point where he just didn't want to be home, couldn't be comfortable at home etc,... Ok i have to just stop ranting out my saga to you.... point is, if h wants to go whether there is interest in ow or not you have to just let him go, things have to change and maybe the change will come from him leaving, now that is not to say you should tell him to leave but don't worry to much if he does. my h left, fell in love with his friend, got her to leave her h (or at least ask for a d) but now is wanting to come home to me and work on our r, and is no longer talking to her (his idea this time) LL