I read through this thread and it just struck a cord with me. You can catch my two threads here my 1st thread 2nd thread
Sorry I realized I probably shouldn't have started the second one but at the time I was looking for advice about that specific topic.
On the subject of joint counseling remember you have to at least try every possible vehicle to reconciliation that you can. You won't know if it will work if you don't try. You must also believe it can work because if you don't then it won't. We haven't started joint counseling but she's finally agreed to it, now I got to get her there. But its at least a baby step and its movement forward one way or another.
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If we really want to love, we must learn how to forgive. - Mother Theresa