Hi Jay,

Yes S did phone me back. We had a strange conversation.I was all bright and quite chirpy, while he though pleasant and friendly ,was more hesitant and flat in his tone.
I had all the news and family stuff, was telling re MY new bathroom, he has not seen,busy life and super He was asking to meet and I offered here as I knew he was wanting to photo his old MG Midget in garage to sell.I think he also likes to touch base here now and again.
He took me up right away,though we agreed not easy to take photos, as garage so full of stuff, his, mine and boys!

I really hope R does make contact with Joe in a supportive way.. heeds your call.I think you are completly right.. the weans come first.. we owe it to them not to make them suffer in our mess and chaos.


I am pleased as on IM with S26 who has depression around his Dad and bad contact.I now got plan between boys that they meet Dad together, without OW, whom they do not like.
So see how that goes.

Hope it helps S26's mood and conflicts.I made it clear I support him in seeing his Dad who was a great Dad to him. He said he just wants to see me happy too. so pleased about NG.

It is late and up in a few hours.. So best go now!

Love N hugs calder.