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CM;

That's a good question, Cm. I live in a larger county and
the courts are backlogged. It would depend on the number
of people filing.

So...where's your question for me? Okay, here's your great
answer: No - you will not help your W move anything out
of the house. A picture frame, vases, pillows, etc. she
can take herself, but no furniture unless you both agree
to it - then she gets a friend or parents to help move it
out. Next question: What will she tell her child why
she is taking anything? Have you both thought of that?

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Hi J ! Just saw your posting to CM. You survived Halloween ! I hope your day was a good one !

I think there is atleast 70 days of backlog in my county btw.. I wish CM would take the focus off of W.. but that is his thing I guess.

Tom

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Yes, I survived the kiddie onslaught. Although, I do have
quite a bit left, I'll give the rest of the candy to my
neighbor's children.

Yes, the courts take time - the dockett's are long.

Other subject: Have you ever wanted to tell someone just
"Put a Sock In It!!!" - I do...talk about someone having
diarreha of the mouth...yuck! Do you think it will ever
end?

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Just a question for thought:

We have seen and read ( and felt) what begging and pleading does in these sitches, I think. It is desperation. I think that desperation breeds anger, insecurity and self pity.

Is there such a thing as "the silent desperate spouse" (SDP) ? You know, the spouse who cant focus his or her life on him (her) self but instead keeps the WAS as the "most important person " in his life yet knows it is self defeating to actually vocalize this directly to the other "spouse" ? So.. Instead he or she avoids the self ? Does this make any sense ?

Time and energy is drained thinking about the other person instead of the positive act of self devotion so that either/and 1). self improvement for the individual occurs, or 2). WAS gets it that the grass is not greener.


Tom

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Well yes.."put a sock in it" is one of my milder thoughts some days ! But that goes with my territory. It will eventually end.. but the time line ? Yikes..

Tom

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Wow AT....SDP. That's been me. On most days. It's hard to lovingly detach when I used to "fix" things for her. Now I just havve to watch her fall and know that there is nothing I can do.

After what happened tonight I am over the papers. There is a long way to go in this. I need to get back to me like you said in the beginning. I had a bout of anger tonight and let it show through one comment. It's done and I can't change that. I'll just move on for tonight and face tomorrow when it comes.


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Yes, I would agree about the SDS. It makes sense...so does
"Get A Life".

That happens when you put everything you have into one
person, which is dangerous, expecting that they validate
your existence, when in actuality, only you can do that
for yourself.

I've attended a lot of weddings and when each person holds
a candle and then together light the larger one - I usually
say to myself, please don't forget you are both individuals
that love each other, but have your own brains.

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J: My first thought is " ouch ! that wax dripping down the candle.. !"

It is funny. We humans devote our lives to many things.. our spouses and children,the workplace, friends.. whatever it is. We lose ourselves (sometimes) in the process.

That is a shame to me.

Tom

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So true, so very true.

Hey, AT can you stop by CM's and give him a little man
to man reinforcement. He just fell a little...you know
he likes your advice.

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Well.. I was hoping I just did !? I think he likes your advice better though !!

Hey, atleast you did not have 40 mph winds for Trick or Treat.. that is what happened here on saturday btw.. Made it fun for my boys which were not driven around ! What is with those parents ?

Tom

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