mlc- I was serious wondering if Rocco was reading our posts, too, but he says he is. I just think he has such an overwhelming sense of guilt built into him, that he feels guilty for stuff he should feel good about. He can't seem to get beyond that or his anger at his W. It's understandable, but the anger has to be put aside for now if he is going to make any progress. My H and I are talking to each other more now about things that concern him, so I hope his anger at me is subsiding somewhat. I forgave him right away for his EA, so my anger is not as great as it was at first. I am working on it. I feel that the way I treated him over the years gives him reason to be angry with me. L