Rocco, I didn't mean that to sound harsh, so I am sorry if it did, but you really do need to stand up for yourself more, and pick your battles. You already know any discussion over religion is going to just hurt you and give them entertainment. and you know that your W's temper tantrums are awful for you, so please do something different this time, okay. Let me know how it goes. Unhappy, tell him how you have dealt with this stuff and is there anything he can do differently to get a different response this time? You two are almost in the same boat, although his seems to be sinking faster. I want to know that something I have said could help, but I am the one who is the bad wife. Trying to do better, but still. And has anything at all positive happened since you started taking more control? L