Hey Grasshopper, thanks for the input and advice. I am always interested in your opinions. I stopped by to let you know that a good friend of mine has done really well in Newcomers and his sitch is coming together nicely. He has decided to move over to piecing, because his W has agreed to work on things and put it back together. He is struggling with the steps needed to do the piecing work and so I suggested that he have you help him along with advice. He has posted already under the name Jersting so if you could check out his post that would be great.