Lou and Bf:

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I agree some of his stuff was roundabout and flowery. You should read the stuff he writes for women though. You can see samples of it on his website. I checked it out and thought to myself...' Who talks like this? What the heck is he saying? HOW can women derive any lesson/knowledge from that..
Makes romance novels look positively conversational.
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Made me HOT! Everything you are saying is true but his stuff hit me on such a gut level, even the flowery stuff - remember that the next time you feel silly approaching a woman in a way that she likes but you don't really understand.

Karen