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cac4 #809310 10/09/06 01:49 AM
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Thats why I don't *expect* any real, permanent change.





There can be. Well, I can at least testify to what would be considered a long-term change. My husband starting posting in 2003. We had quite a struggle getting to where we are today. Baby steps and quite a few spectacular falls.

For us, it was much, much more than sexual starvation, but early in the struggle, I don't think he recognized that truth. All that is to say that more than sexuality had to be worked on in our marriage.

I thought I had made my issues clear over the years. I don't know if I didn't communicate well, or if he could not hear/understand. Most likely it was a combination of both.

But we're in a good place now and have been for some time. So, I believe there can be real change. I guess the permanent I'll have to pass on since that score can be added up until one of us bites the dust.

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ilmw7 #809311 10/09/06 11:14 AM
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i can't seem to get an i love you, or thanks, or sorry or whatever unless it is solicited now. there seems to be nothing heart-felt.





She's cross with you. You need to find out why. Don't make it about you as in "why aren't you being nice to me?" Find out what's going on for her in a spirit of concern for her. If she starts to get the feeling that you care for her because you care for HER not because you need something back from her perhaps it will be a baby-step in the right direction.

When did all this start?

Fran


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