Just curious.... what do you guys do when you realize they are still lying. For example, the other night we were talking about when I started noticing my husband "pulling away" from the marriage. I told him around maybe November (that's when his class started with OW). He said he didn't start up the relationship with her until February. But... I know it started before then because I have the phone numbers. Maybe this is an error on his part, or maybe he's trying to minimize the length of time... I don't know.

But what do you do if you realize they are still lying?

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