RE Cobra She sees all sacrifices in a marriage as being made by the woman, for the benefit of the man, and therefore the system is oppressive. The W's are almost Twins in this area, I see.
With the exception of Hairdog, I am not sure who else here (maybe Lou to an extent) is fighting the same battle To an extent Cobra.
That is why I do what I believe I must do, try to learn as much as I can to be sure I am not taking the wrong path, and stick to my beliefs regardless of what he consensus says. I understand your point that not much happens unless you push it, but don't totally discount the other posters advice.
My life would be much easier if I had a wife closer to the “consensus.” Read some of the www.takeninhand.com articles. (No registration required.)
A Taken In Hand (TIH) relationship is a consensually male-led exclusive monogamous relationship in which the man's control is real and for the purpose of creating a deeply connected, fully engaged relationship with a white-hot sexual connection.
How the man expresses his leadership and control is an individual matter, but it is for the benefit of the relationship rather than being purely self-serving. The Taken In Hand man protects and cherishes the woman he leads. The Taken In Hand woman responds positively to her man's authority and leadership. It is not necessarily a domestic discipline relationship, though it can be.
Remember A Taken In Hand relationship has it's origin as a consensual agreement between a H and W. But I don't think Mrs. Cobra would go for that. (I am not into the spankings or other discipline activities BTW, as many others are not.)
You might not want a totally TIH R but I see some parts of a TIH R that you want.
Cobra, read a few articles from the W's POV there. The ones I read said they don't want a spineless man and maybe this has some thing in common with alpha male traits discussed on this forum.
There are posts for this web site on one of the Yahoog group forums. Interesting readings, mostly from women.
A few months ago, I began talking about my preference for Alpha men. (I had to define the term for many people, because they assumed the worst!)
Then I spoke with a handful of people about male-led relationships generally. I do not find most people open to relationships that challenge the CW, so I only speak about why I prefer a male-led relationship to a small handful of people. A female Poster
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Taken_In_Hand/ You have to register to view the posts.
