Good to hear the validating is working. It seems so simple in way, doesn't it, but its kind of the last thing we think of! Sorry I must have missed your post this morning. I find myself really annoyed with a MC who refuses to work with you unless...What if your W wasn't in an A but had the hots for some other guy, would the MC refuse to work with you guys until she stopped having those feelings? What garbage. Find a MC that is willing to work with what you got. To do so also shows your committment to continuing the work and your M. DB'ing is all about doing the impossible, isn't it. Me to your MC: "If people have the courage to come and see you, then help them for F*** sakes." Sorry, it just pisses me off! P.S. I love your withdrawl comment, Muddle