Just a quick note here too, will respond more later ...
MJ
Your scenario involving the apple pie is I think revealing. Which of those men would you feel more sexual desire for? I have asked several women profs around campus this basic question, figuring that women profs would probably tend to be more assertive types. Actually, the scenario I posed was "Imagine a man who took care of all your needs, deferred to your every whim, and was ALWAYS there for you. You would obviously be able to love such a man, but would you feel sexual desire toward him? Not just a desire to make him happy in return, but honest-to-goodness DESIRE?" I'll tell you, most of them hem-and-haw at that point, but I can see it in their eyes when they respond. They wouldn't be "hot" for such a man.
Anyways, something else to throw out there. Maybe we should agree on a definition for alpha male. Or maybe we should use a term that is different since that term is apparently used to mean something different than what we are looking for. To me, the alpha male is one who can evoke both desire and love. Who is confident of their own needs, but caring and considerate enough to keep the LB of their SO filled. I think Fran posted a scenario about wallpaper colors or something recently that if I remember correctly put in a way that resonated with my personal thoughts on the subject. There was something about false-alphas, overly selfish confidence and bluster. Anyone remember that?
Chrome
"Recollect me darlin, raise me to your lips, two undernourished egos, four rotating hips"
