Gel,

Were you talking to me or Karen? LOL

Yes I think you are right that we should see the C separately as well as together. I do wonder whether all the crap that is spewing out of H towards me now is because it has nowhere else to go. If he was talking to a C he wouldn't have to off-load it on me to make himself feel better. He could just tell the C exactly what he thinks of me.

I can't see things getting better unless H addresses the alcohol issue, but he might actually hear it from the C.

Burgbud, Cobra & Lil
Thanks for your posts, when I came back from our camping holiday I made some replies to you guys in a long post. Now I look again I see that somehow it didn't end up here. Anyway much of what I had to say was probably piffle now that things have taken another turn for the worse. But I just wanted you guys to know that I hadn't meant to ignore you

take care

Fran


if we can be sufficient to ourselves, we need fear no entangling webs
Erica Jong