I think a lot of what you say is understandable. I feel the article "Childrens side of Divorce" tell me a lot about why I should work on this marriage instead of walking away. I still wonder about the length of time that i let my W go. She call me a lot she talks a lot when she calls and she seems to want to say something but holds back. Maybe I am putting too much into the calls but I am still thinking small. I do agree about the jealousy. It's so hard to think of her going to another man. It's hard to be called selfish and be told to "grow up" by her and her friends. It's hard to not have someone to hold and kiss and love. Now what do you think of her spending more time on the phone talking about nothing? I mean calling about the kids and just talking about her day or her family or just being on the phone asking me questions about trivial stuff. On my birthday it felt like she didn't want to get off the phone and i said i had to go. Should I still let it be? Thats the advise others give me but I feel like I should ask her where we are going and where the talks about divorce went. I am so torn. Well let me know what you feel grasshopper or anyone else with two cents