Right on, GH. I think your words should be taken to heart by all of us, not just Benwa. Quote she is NOT bound to you or your marriage by a piece of paper, vows, history, kids, your feelings, or anything else. We often can't get by our feelings about that piece of paper, vows etc. "She's supposed to love me and that is that". Then we have our little tantrums e.g. sending your W condoms! Your words hit home for me GH. My M, as I know it, IS over. It's time to build something new that hopefully my S will want to buy into. I hope that you, Benwa, can swallow this too. Thanks GH.