Thanks for the congrats... I came to the conclusion that my problem was that we were locked in a cycle of me initiating and her rejecting which over time became our "default" behaviour. It took me to get the courage together - after reading the SSM and PM books and with a lot of help from you all - to suggest that we really had to do something to break the bad habit and try the once a week Just Do It as Michele suggests. To my amazement (and my DW is very ND and very strong willed) she [who obviously knew we had a problem] agreed and has stayed with it ever since so that it has now become our default behaviour. Try talking to her and disclosing the fact that you want, and believe that you both deserve a better more passionate marriage and suggest the once a week schedule. It's got to be worth a try. SD